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Originally posted by Looger@Nov 21 2004, 10:51 PM
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@Nov 16 2004, 08:26 PM
It never fails to amaze me how quickly people forgive and forget how unforgiving, intolerant, cruel, and abusive these people are--all under the pretense of the Islamic faith.
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do me a favour.
add up all the slaughters of innocent civilians in the middle east, the french in algeria, to the resettled palestinians in what is now israel, to the phalange (christian) militiamen that massacred over a thousand men, women, and children, to the israelis handing over ~1000 men the next day to those same militiamen so they could finish the job, add the daily innocents killed in raids in the occupied territories around israel, etc.
now subtract deaths caused by islamic terrorists against non-muslims in the same, say, 50-year time period.
the results may surprise, because that number is WAY positive.
i'm not here saying, 'christians and jews have killed more innocents than muslims have, nah nah nah'.
what i'm here saying is that the mideast is a messed up region for many reasons, including primarily in my books, the last 100 years of western/ottoman mismanagement and outside influence. that includes iran, which if you check into it, really would not be the way it is without us deciding their governments (and oil rights) for them.
it is NOT a muslim-non muslim issue.
as much as many people think it is, it is not.
quite honestly, the historical irony is a little thick, what with western european countries having issues with all the muslims in their countries.
perhaps they should not have colonized those peoples' countries, eh...?
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Why are you asking me to do the work? It's not up to me to convince myself that you are right. You do the homework. Prove to me that you have the right facts.
To be honest, I think you out to lunch on this one. Israel and the western world don't go around strapped with bombs blowing up seniors, pregnant women and children. Our societies won't tolerate barbaric behavior like that. Just look at what happened to the soldier that shot the wounded, unarmed insurgent. [/b][/quote]
What exactly is your stance here? Do you think fanatic Muslim terrorists have killed more people in the last 50 years than western and Israeli militaries have?