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Old 11-06-2018, 10:16 AM   #4365
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV View Post
Comparing to the 2015 Blackhawks, you can't compare lines directly because we have different lines playing different roles. The comparision should really look like:

Shutdown line A:
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik vs Saad-Toews-Hossa

Let's call this a wash. Both were incredible at shutting opponents down. You could probably give a bit of a bonus to the Blackhawks' line because Toews won more faceoffs than Backlund.

Scoring Line A:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm vs Saad-Toews-Hossa
Both lines can score for you. Calgary has the best scorer in Gaudreau, but Chicago has the next two best scorers in Hossa and Toews. Lindholm vs Saad is a wash. I'm willing to call this a wash.

Scoring Line B
Patrick Kane and Two Friends vs Matthew Tkachuk and Two Friends

I think as much as I like our second scoring line, you gotta take Patrick Kane. He probably would have won the Art Ross that year over Benn, Tavares, and Crosby. It's a higher scoring league now, but relative to the league Kane was more dangerous.

Scoring Line C

Sharp-Vermette-Teravainen vs Bennett-Jankowski-Neal

Both teams seem to have a big vacuum down the middle. I believe we have a fix available in Bennett at 3C, but that's besides the point. Sharp vs Neal is pretty close and Bennett vs Teravainen seems pretty close to my eyes. I would personally like to see Czarnik-Bennett-Neal and I think if that were our 3rd line it would have an edge over the Blackhawks unit.


Shutdown Line B
Desjardins-Kruger-Shaw vs Bennett-Jankowski-Neal

I think the Blackhawks had an advantage here as Kruger was pretty suffocating. But again, if Bennett were our 3C I might change my mind.


Not Remotely A Shutdown Line

Bickell-Richards-Kane vs Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm

I would say Richards had the edge here defensively. I might feel differently if our top line were Gaudreau-Lindholm-Monahan.

Odds-And-Ends:
Andrew Shaw, despite playing on a pretty weak offensive line, was a big part of the Hawks PP offensively, and is generally a notably play driver

The Flames are still too early in their season to know what they have in their fourth line. I believe a Dube-Ryan-Jankowski line is what we should be looking at, but that's going to require the aformentioned tweak on our third line.
That's all fine, but the debate was about the need for two top quality offensive centres (I'm guessing based on Crosby/Malkin, Backstrom/Kuznestov or Kopitar/Carter).

You have, I supposed established that, depending on winger strength and ability, you can have a contender without that. The Hawks did, IMO. So did the Preds two seasons ago.
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