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Originally Posted by blankall
The problem is that the current liberal philosophy also does nothing for the working class.
If you're part of various special interest groups, liberal politics are great, but the people in the middle pay for these benefits. So you've got a situation where the upper class is tax sheltered, the very lowest class is benefiting, and the middle are paying for everything.
Conservative politics currently works with a filter down economic model. So working class people might benefit from that, as there theoretically should be job creation. Although, you are correct, the conservative model does nothing for the working class directly, it might benefit them indirectly, which is better than what the liberal model is offering, which is no benefit and potentially a detriment. On top of that you've got liberals making the working class out to be ignorant bigots at every turn.
So the current paradigm creates a situation where under the liberal philosophy, the working class won't benefit, but they might benefit under the conservative model.
If the liberals want to bring back the working class, they actually need to do something that helps them. Bernie Sanders attempted to do this, but was struck down by his own party.
The excuse about not being able to elect Supreme Court members is pretty lame too. That occurred in 2016, which was at the very end of Obama's presidency. I also fail to see how having one more supreme court judge would have created jobs for American workers. Obama also enjoyed a democratic majority in the Senate for the vast majority of both of his terms of presidency.
Once again, I'm not stating that Trump is the cause of the USA's current prosperity. It could be just luck and external factors. However, the US will continue to vote Republican as a long as things are going well and until the Democrats change their tune and actually start putting forward a platform that appeals to working people.
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I'm going to add one more piece here. The Republicans make politics into an all or nothing game. Black and White. Liberals have the big tent philosophy to include everyone.
Immigration: we either let everyone in or nobody in
Guns: There are either guns or no guns.
Obviously the Liberals aren't letting all immigrants or asking to ban all guns, but unless they come up with a solution and not outraged every time, the voter then gets trapped into the republican playbook. Of course if given the choice of letting nobody in or letting everyone in, you'll vote to let nobody in, or else you no longer have a country. These two choices are of course false and not the reality since there is an immigration/refugee/international law policy. However, the republicans will grandstand and portray it that way to get your vote.
Like your scenario above, liberals won't help me but conservatives might. That's not true but that's how Republicans win.