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Old 12-18-2006, 01:50 PM   #9
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ha, yeah the f-4 has warts, can't deny that.

it ain't a dogfighter, in fact i think only one pilot made a gun kill in vietnam with one, robin olds. i believe some israeli pilots have gun kills with them, i read a big article in air forces monthly by an indian observer on the egyptian side of the six-day war that had a very detailed tally.

the 1950s were a strange time in conceptual military terms, many out-of-date concepts like the looming threat of thousands of bombers appearing over the arctic circle.

i'd say in that light it's amazing that the phantom is as viable today as it is, because many designs of that time are not to be seen these days.
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