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Old 12-18-2006, 01:43 PM   #41
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There is no point trying to get into an anti-US debate with me because i stand with you on that one. With reguards to the support of Al Quada, the Taliban and the US Administrations support for the Saddam regieme. I consider all of these as proxy wars, in relation to the US opposition of the Soviet Union at the time as well as the opposition to Iran. More so of a strategy to get someone else to fight your war for you. The Taliban has never been an ally to the United States, it was simply used to combat soviet infleunce so the United States did not have to. The fact of the matter is, these countries, factions and groups looked like viable options at the time for whatever reasons, but to sit here and insinuate there is still some sort of conspiracy is just ridiculous. Allys can be allys one minute and emenys the next.
i'd accept this argument as relevant if western nations hadn't been caught red-handed using al-CIA-da to stir up the bosnian conflict, to assassinate quaddafi, and maintain high-level contacts and support with sick regimes like the taliban, all after the cold war ended.

iran was anti-soviet under mossadeq and he was overthrown over oil interests. cia.gov, operation ajax. plenty of bragging aboot it, kermit roosevelt, grandson of teddy, near the end of his life was in national papers talking up his part in the operation.

empires need enemies, imperialists need conflicts, the masses need bogeymen.
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Nevertheless, anyone who thinks our soldiers aren't there to bring freedom to the Afghans, stabalize that country to prevent it from going into turmoil and preventing the ability for Al Quada to operate freely in that country, to plan future attacks on global targets - Canada included - is just brainwashed.
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As for personal insults, where? I simply fired what you said to me, right back at you. What goes around comes around.
the insult wasn't that HUGE a deal but it was in your first post response, just pointing it out - if you want to debate that's great but the tone of my response is ALWAYS metered by the tone of the challenger.
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