[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by blankall

I at no point said all liberals are entitled or delusional.

Well, you sort of did.

Originally Posted by blankall

From my experience with the college educated and liberal crowd, there are many of them with delusions of grandeur and entitlement. Your assertion that the working class are largely motivated by a desire for extravagant wealth and fame is downright bizarre.

Now if you want to back track on that and say that not all college educated and liberal crowds are like that, then fine. I have no problem with that. I hope you can understand that when I say a particular group exhibits certain traits it is also a generalization and not every single one of those people who ascribe to that ideology completely, and as a result may not fall completely in that classification.

Both liberals and conservatives can be delusions can be entitled. My point is that stating one group is entirely negative is divisive and unproductive.

No doubt. That has never been in question. The issue is which is more harmful to society as a result of maintaining these delusions and harboring their entitlement?

I also at no point have provided any support for Trump or stated that his pandering was "good. I stated it was merely successful, which it was.

Again, you appeared to infer something else, but I will accept your clarification. No harm, no foul.

The working class has an absolute point that nothing is being done to help them under the current system. We've got a system where: manual labour jobs are leaving North America or not seeing proper wage increases; property prices have been rising dramatically for a decade; middle earning wages get taxed heavily; post-secondary education costs are out of control, and the value of earning a degree is replaced by nepotism; social mobility is dying; and just about anyone earning a significant amount of money can tax shelter those earnings in a private corporation.

And I agree with everything you say here. They absolutely have a point on each of these issues. Now, the larger question is, which of the two sides of this argument have provided greater traction on each of these issues, and which one has been front and center to infringement of rights or access on each of those issues? Are Republicans more likely to be the champion of the working class to guarantee systemic improvements to the various issues identified, or have they proven they are more inclined to be a roadblock and weaken systemic access?


So if you, as a voter, are looking for greater access to each of those things you alluded to, why in all things holy would you believe that the Republican Party would be worthy of your vote? When, in the past 60 years, have they done anything for the working class? The Republican Party is the Party of the elites. It is the Party of the rich. It is the Party of wealth transfer, but from the poor to the rich. What would lead you to believe that Republicans would have any interest in anything but self-enrichment?