[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by redforever

And calling them stupid and uneducated also incites them. There are ways to have a conversation with people and get your point across. That is not one of them.

And what is wrong with calling a spade-a-spade? You're making them sound like the very snowflakes they point at liberals and say are ruining America. They can't have it both ways. Also, what is wrong with calling them just that?



What do you call someone who is not well versed in things beyond their own particular (very) limited world view? I mean, what would you call someone who has never been outside of their own county, and has no desire to know anything beyond the confines of that county? The United States is just plum full of people like that who live in rural areas. Is uneducated not an accurate term?


What would you call someone who repeatedly does the exact same thing, time-and-time again, regardless of information that should correct the behavior? Would you call someone who walks down the same dark alley and gets mugged, but never alters the behavior? Would stupid not be accurate?


See, I don't get this. The right can do and say whatever hateful #### they want, and its okay. But someone points out, in the very same terms the right would use to describe these behaviors, and it's all offensive up in this joint? Why is it wrong to call them what they are?

Originally Posted by blankall

This just reeks of contempt for the working class. As others have pointed out, you're not helping the problems with this rhetoric.

Contempt? I came from a working class family. Those are my roots. Thye would use these very same terms for people who are doing exactly what they are doing. You're also making Cliff's point for him. You're proving that the left are a bunch of snowflakes and can't get their hands dirty and play the game the same way the right does. That is why the right wins in America.

Many working class people in America (and elsewhere) have genuine and warranted fears for their economic safety in a globalized world. There are people who have to worry about how they will pay their rent and how they will feed themselves and their families. The social net in America is much less forgiving than in Canada.

Give me a break. These people you are talking about don't understand globalization or the global economy. That is the point! They are ignorant about this very topic you think is resonating with them and driving them to vote specific ways. For crying out loud, they just voted in a bunch of globalists! They just voted for a guy that has leveraged his brand around the globe! You think for a second they have any concept of what Trump's policies would have on their lives? No, they voted because they heard a fairy tale they could comprehend, one that was based on a false promise from the very type of people they supposedly fear and loathe, because of their economic safety.

Yes Trump absolutely panders to the worst and most bigoted avenues of these concerns, but that doesn't mean that genuine concerns don't exist either. Where Trump has success is that he at least knows how to pander. Hillary tried to do the same thing, and it came across as clumsy and unrelated every time.

So pandering=good, but honesty=bad. Got it.

From my experience with the college educated and liberal crowd, there are many of them with delusions of grandeur and entitlement. Your assertion that the working class are largely motivated by a desire for extravagant wealth and fame is downright bizarre.

So its okay to say educated liberals are "entitled" and have "delusions of grandeur" but its wrong to call those salt of the earth working class folk "uneducated" and "stupid" because of the very behaviors they display on a consistent basis? Interesting double standard you have there. And you talk about bizarre?