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Originally Posted by Red Slinger
Sorry, but what makes Obama "one of the most left wing Presidents in history" exactly? By most non-partisan accounts he was largely centrist. The only really lefty thing Obama did was the Affordable Care Act and even that was for-profit health insurance.
The decline of the wages and jobs for the working class have been in decline since the Great Recession. Those jobs have not returned with Trump despite his lies to the contrary.
https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...s-wages-arent/
According to this^ Trump's anti-globalization agenda is actually costing the working class. |
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Originally Posted by blankall
What we consider centrist has changed considerably in the last 10 years. Issues like gay marriage, abortion, and even some kind of basics public funding for health care are no longer considered far left but centrist now. Even in this more liberal modern day, Obama was widely considered one of, if not the most, liberal members of the US Senate prior to his election. His voting record in the Senate was very left of centre, as was his campaign message.
People can twist the figures any way they want, but there are more people working now than under Obama's administration. Like I said, this could just be a coincidence caused by economic factors outside of a president's control. And while I agree that the widening economic gap between rich and poor is a long term problem, Obama did absolutely nothing to correct it. People being back at work now, may not actually correct it either, but it certainly provides that perception to the voters who are working again.
Edit: The link you provided sites increasing oil prices as a driver of decreased buying power. Blaming the current mess in the middle east on Trump is a huge stretch. Increased oil prices have nothing to do with anyone's middle east policy. The increase in prices was caused by OPEC deciding to limit supply for the purpose of increasing prices and profits. The USA, while they still import crude, is a net exporter of refined oil products. Increases in prices are not entirely negative for them.
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I don't think this is accurate, I think Bill and Hillary both are to the left on Obama in key areas like the economy, the environment and healthcare. Jimmy Carter is certainly to the left of Obama and potentially/arguably is JFK.
Obama might be most centrist democratic president in living memory, aside from LBJ maybe.