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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Honestly, the arguments made - by a few - appeared to be attempting to find numbers to argue Gultuzan was a good coach despite the lack of results. It was less analysis and more rationalization. This is a problem I have with a number of advanced stat guys. They try to fit the data to their conclusion rather than the other way around.
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This is not right. I think Bingo, myself and others have been arguing that the problem with Gulutzan was not necessarily the system he employed, but rather more in terms of execution. There were clearly problems with how he coached the team, but there were also things that I still believe worked, and I think that is what was behind Bingo's own fastidious analyses. If anyone was guilty of "fit[ting] the data to their conclusion ," I think this charge fits best those who would make sweeping assertions about the numbers without actually addressing what they were indicating. With considerable frequency I recall seeing retorts about how "Gulutzan plays for corsi," or that the Flames were a "perimeter team" that took high volumes of low percentage shots from outside, and that simply did not align with the numbers regularly produced by Bingo's sources.
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And that is why the "deep dive" has been so disparaged. Trying to argue Gulutzan was a good coach despite the team's awful record and plodding, slow, boring style; despite his clear inability to respond to anything happening on the ice; despite his unwillingness to do anything to change up what wasn't working; and despite his love affair with crappy players was never going to sell.
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These are entirely separate issues from what the "deep dive" was dealing with. I agree that these were all serious problems which showed that Gulutzan was not a good coach, but these are separate from the fact that the Flames were pretty consistently a high possession team which generated a lot of high-danger scoring chances.
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If there was frustration, it was because nobody was buying what was easily disproven by what we saw on the ice night in and night out.
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What was "disproven," exactly? What is it you think Bingo was attempting to argue in the first place?