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Old 10-28-2018, 10:47 AM   #15
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Absolutely, maybe I should have used green text but I was obviously playing on the discussion that has gone here that you can't win with either of those guys and maybe they should be moved. I think it is overreaction so I made a play on that. I think Mony needs to start scoring and I think he will, I think Johnny had been fine. He is an elite offensive player, anyone expecting a 200 foot game is being unrealistic, some players are pure offense.
I have all the time in the world for players that are getting chances but not scoring. That's part of the game. You need patience.

But when you're giving two guys 20 minutes a night of five on five time (average game that 20/50 for at least 40% of your five on five ice time), and they're a negative in production (only 5 5on5 goals for and 7 against his year) you have a problem.

When you dig deeper and look into them being snake bit you see their expected differential is -2 as well, so they're actually getting outplayed in terms of what they generate and what they give up, so they're not really helping you win at all when their on the powerplay.

Sample size?

Fair so you look at last season and you see expected goals for for both players was slightly positive, but not to the point of contribution (+2 for a season isn't really contributing), however their actual was a positive contribution of +13 or +14

They out performed their underlying numbers.

So that's good if it's sustainable, but it's actually part of the problem if they were fortunate.
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