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Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty
I mean in your role as a developer does this proposal create more work for you to implement or change infrastructure? I'm just curious as to why you're vehemently defending the legislation.
I still haven't had a chance to find the speech, but I can't help but think the CP science crowd would have found any evidence that exists by this point. Everything you mention from improved safety outcomes to decreases in collisions has basically been disproven in this thread.
Why does this need to be implemented to inform new road design? Seems to me it would be much cheaper to skip the part without any statistical or evidence backing and implement the cheap potential solution alone.
The onus of proof is on council. I haven't seen or heard any evidence that:
1. There is a large issue of pedestrian deaths and injuries in Calgary neighborhoods that are pimarily as a result of speed >40km per hour or
2. Reducing posted speed limits reduces actual average speed by a significant amount resulting in
3. Less pedestrian deaths and injuries in urban neighborhoods due to said reduced posted speed limits.
For this to be a reasonable proposal these all have to be met.
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Ah. No, is it not something that would generate work for what we do.
Disproven? Disputed, maybe.
I’d also clarify that I support a 40 limit, mich more than a 30 limit.
The reason that posted limit matters with respect to design is that it is unusual (perhaps off-side with the Traffic Safety Act) to design street standards that are for below posted speeds. What the charter allows is the City, not the Province to set a lower default limit (meaning no signage), which enables different street standards to (at minimum more easily than they otherwise would be) to be implemented. At least that’s what I gathered from the discussion.
The presentation, once it’s posted would be a nice place to start - on Calgary specific data. Once again, the proposal does not ONLY look at speed limit. The Notice of Motion has an unusual level of detail. This is also not into implementation - Administration was asked to make their best recommendations, including answering these types of questions (that Councillors also asked). Also, more generally, read up on New York, or Sweden’s Vision Zero work. Lots of interesting stuff there. Other good reads on the topic are Jeff Speck or Janette Sadik Khan.