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Originally Posted by Bunk
Not sure I follow...
But anyway, we talked earlier about how the City did present evidence that when speed limits drop, there is a reduction of average speed regardless of design. When combined with design changes so that “design speed” matches posted speed there are further drops in speed and improved safety outcome. This is the very basis of the vision zero philosophy, that has proven out pretty dramatic decreases in collisions where it’s been implemented. The motion includes direction that if posted speed is reduced, this will inform changes in the requirements for his streets are built in new communities. I was pointing out that I think this would be a positive change from the selfish point of view that it would be cheaper to build and provide better qualities and amenities that residents value. That of course is quite aside from the implementation on existing streets.
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I mean in your role as a developer does this proposal create more work for you to implement or change infrastructure? I'm just curious as to why you're vehemently defending the legislation.
I still haven't had a chance to find the speech, but I can't help but think the CP science crowd would have found any evidence that exists by this point. Everything you mention from improved safety outcomes to decreases in collisions has basically been disproven in this thread.
Why does this need to be implemented to inform new road design? Seems to me it would be much cheaper to skip the part without any statistical or evidence backing and implement the cheap potential solution alone.
The onus of proof is on council. I haven't seen or heard any evidence that:
1. There is a large issue of pedestrian deaths and injuries in Calgary neighborhoods that are pimarily as a result of speed >40km per hour or
2. Reducing posted speed limits reduces actual average speed by a significant amount resulting in
3. Less pedestrian deaths and injuries in urban neighborhoods due to said reduced posted speed limits.
For this to be a reasonable proposal these all have to be met.