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Old 09-25-2018, 11:53 PM   #1466
CliffFletcher
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Since you wanted examples, have you ever heard of Jewish guilt? Have you ever heard of the practice of restoring honor - saving face - in Asian cultures (Japanese, Chinese)? Islam also has a similar tradition, although it is much more aggressive and free to use violence. Have you heard of karma, and having to live a good life to make up for bad karma (Taoism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism)? Have you also heard of the many traditions of honoring previous generations, alive and dead, through cultural celebration (Latin and African)? Since you are so focused on the superiority of Christianity, you might want to be aware that the Judeo-Christian-Islamic traditions borrow greatly from Sumerian cultural standards, especially the honoring of past generations and sharing the shame of their failures. Frankly, all cultures have some honor/guilt tradition, they just express them in different ways, each unique to their cultural context. Enough?
Are you being deliberately obstuse? Where did I say anything about Christianity being superior?

But I await your links to school curriculum, media stories, and pop culture references in Japan to the Rape of Nanking and the comfort women of Korean. Or the handwringing in Turkey over the 500 year subjugation of the Middle East and the Armenia genocide. Or the popular guilt expressed in China over the occupation of Tibet. Or the mea culpas in Saudi Arabia over the slave trade.

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You do have a problem with the left, and you voice it every chance you get. Everyone can see it, and it shows in the very questionable videos and articles you post. You routinely point a finger at others for having an agenda, but the one with the agenda is clearly yourself. You claim one thing, but your research and commentary say another. How are you not seeing this?
If you're such an avid follower of my posts, you'll have noted I take a left of centre approach to almost all economic issues. I'm pro sales tax, pro public health care and education. I voted NPD provincially and Liberal federally. Almost every time someone pipes up here about taxes and the Alberta advantage and wasteful government, I'm here defending public services and criticizing the low tax rates in this province and reliance on royalties to fund government.

But the fact that when you say 'left' you evidently mean the cultural progressive left is telling in itself. When the animating force on the left went from universal economic issues to identity politics, that's when they lost their way, and played right into the hands of the far right.

I like to think I'm a fairly good communicator, but your unfailing ability to misunderstand pretty much everything I post on this forum suggests that our communications styles and perceptions of the world are so different that it's fruitless for us to carry on with these sorts of discussions anymore. But if you are at all interested in carrying on, please take a few minutes out of your life and watch the Stephen Fry speech. Then get back to me and say whether you think Fry is a liberal.
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