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Old 09-11-2018, 03:02 PM   #521
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There were some really good concepts and scenes in TLJ anyone that says there weren't is probably letting his overall feelings about the movie get in his or her way, or wants to be the cool kid.


My problems weren't scenes, well there were some scenes that were cringe worthy, but the over arching story just didn't work out for me as much.



Liked


Luke being jaded and angry and frightened by how things had turned out. No matter what happened at the end of ROTJ with the redemption of his father, bringing peace to the galaxy and ending the Sith, it was all destined to go to pot as Snoke nailed it precisely when one side of the force rises the other rises to meet it. That to me is just a smart bit of Force philosophy as it points out that the Jedi and the Sith had no idea what the balance of the force meant. At the end of the day, you could argue that the Force requires a constant state of conflict between the Dark and the Light to maintain balance. A ascendant light doesn't really mean peace and harmony.



That the first two movies resisted the re rise of the Sith was something I absolutely loved, it showed the flaw in the rule of two, while thousands of years of evolution by the Sith created these incredibly strong evil force users, in the end the betrayal by one ended the Sith line and all that knowledge was lost.


The fight scenes and the battle scenes looked good and were choreographed well. Daisy Ridley has a great physicality to the role.



I kind of had a love hate relationship of the Yoda Luke scene. In some parts it was good, but the entire premise in the end that Yoda really came to the realization that the Jedi in its current form needed to die out and be re-invented could have maybe been done better.


The retelling of the story of Kylo's betrayal told from three different sides was brilliantly done, and the question of Luke creating Kylo was brilliant. The road to hell is paved with the best intentions and because of his actions Luke had spent years in hell and compounded doing the wrong thing with an even worse sin of hiding away.



What I disliked


There was a jarring disconnect between the first movie and the second with dropped storylines and facts that were created in the first story and just dropped in the second movie.



There was too much reliance on making the second movie a reboot of the best Star Wars movie ever made in Empire Strikes back. The out odded space chase, the ground battle, even the super sized Starr Destroyer.


I thought the recreation of the tree scene with the cave scene was stupid and pointless.


The opening battle scene was ruined by the whole Hugs thing and BB-8 doing the boy in the damn scene.



Poe was poorly written through the whole movie, he wasn't a misguided military officer with the best interests of the Resistance at heart, he was a petulant spoiled child, by the end of the movie, when he had become this leader, I really didn't care.


The whole Rose Finn storyline and the Casino scene was just badly executed and terrible. On top of that they could have done so much more with the explanation of sides of grey and feeding the war machine stuff. The DJ character was more annoying then anything.


Snoke was an idiot, just plain and simple and he was put there not to be awesome but to be a disposible yeoman ala star trek.


Phasma, they might as well have left her dead in the first one, what a wasted character.


They made the First Order into incompetent buffoons.



I can never understand in Star Wars movies why they stop or don't shoot. In ANH they held their fire on the escape pod, in the LJ Hux orders him to stop firing because that's enough, do they have to pay for their laser bolts?


It just wasn't a good story, and when you take scenes directly form Empire Stikes back and somehow make them seem pale in comparison that's bad script writing.
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