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Old 09-10-2018, 04:36 PM   #186
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For New Era^^ So your saying that all opinions within a group aren’t homogeneous? No way!

But if we agree that ‘conservatives’ trying to suppress climate science based on political beliefs is wrong, then we should also be able to agree that ‘liberals’ that suppress science on whatever they disagree with is equally distasteful.

And Pepsifree, your argument against Cliffs post seems to be that if it has happened in the past, then it is ok now. Why wouldn’t you agree that burying legitimate scientific research because it violates some current social / political taboo is wrong, even if you can find prior examples of it occurring at some point in history?
My argument isn’t that it’s ok now, my argument is that dramatising it is a new and novel thing is not only wrong, it actually damages our path forward because we then also have to then ignore the teachings of history in how to respond to this suppression.

I mean, of course it’s wrong. It was wrong when they did it 400 years ago, it’s wrong now, and has been wrong at every instance in between.

We deal with it as we have done in the past, not by throwing our hands up, becoming nihilists, and saying “gee I can’t say anything without feeling pressure so i’ll say nothing,” it’s continuing to say it, countuining to present the research, looking for different ways forward to get what might be important messages across and not simply giving up. That’s the way forward. It’s not new or special, it’s what history has taught us.
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