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Old 09-09-2018, 10:03 AM   #162
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Sorry, this isn't just about the words people use. There are zealots and extremists out there who furiously reject any challenges to their orthodoxy, regardless of the science and regardless of how the challenge is worded.
Actually, that’s exactly what we were talking about. If you’d like to move the goalposts in this direction, I’m more than happy to respond to this.

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Another case showing that conservatives aren't the only ones who denounce and suppress science that challenges ideological orthodoxies.

* This is the same argument that religious authorities use to suppress the teaching of evolution - its scientific merits matter less than the threat it poses to social values.
These are, quite frankly, unique situations, and as illustrated by the very article you presented, the solution is: continue having the conversation, adjusting along as required to land your message or explore your idea, in order to present something you think is valuable.

So, some academics didn’t like a paper, and the author goes on to not only publish a long article explaining why that’s an issue on Quillette, the paper is included, and reading the comments section, the response is overwhelmingly (99%+) positive and supportive. Can you explain to me the issue? That there was resistance? There’s always resistance on any contentious issue, the solution is, as illustrated, to work a little harder for good ideas.

Again, whether posters here claiming that they’d rather just avoid conversation altogether than put effort in, or your hypothetical friend who can’t see to put any effort in to expressing his idea, the solution is: be open, listen, and be prepared to work on your presentation of a statement.

That’s pretty basic social functionality. Again, I know that it becomes much harder depending on certain psychological conditions, but for the average relatively healthy mind, that’s just pretty much how we were all raised to interact. The solution when you meet someone who doesn’t know how, or who just reacts poorly to your own presentation of something, isn’t to just sit and mope.
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