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Originally Posted by Bingo
You may as well shake your fist at me and tell me to get off your lawn.
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I would just like some acknowledgement that the stats are not consistent nor have been proven to show causality in any way what so ever. Those who ascribe to advanced stats are hardcore believers, even when the stats don't prove to be accurate in any shape or form.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Yes! Let's toss out data because it is not precisely accurately effective. We are much better off with LESS information and no attempted innovations.
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Yes, let's toss out data that is not precisely accurate and effective. That's what you're supposed to do with bad data sets. That's my problem with advanced stats. Many of these stats don't make sense as the relations are not causal of anything. The attempt to model a very complex game with a greater degree of chaos in the mix, which cannot be done with very simplistic measures being used. This isn't baseball where any event is binary in nature. Many of the stats don't prove anything, and if anything have been proven to be bogus in what they do prove. That is why I would rather rely on the eyeballs than erroneous information.
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Descriptions of Peters's system sound subtly different, but I suspect the biggest and most necessary change will come from having a stronger voice and persona behind the bench.
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I hope this is accurate, because I'm not certain there is much difference between the two other than one being a swell guy and the other be crusty.