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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
At the end of the day, maybe this sounds like a bit of a broken record, the team hated Hartley and the Flames fired him and moved on, then the Flames hated GG and the team had to fire him and move on.
I get it with Hartley, behind his charm and quips he sounds like he was a task master, they bought in GG who was supposed to be a players coach and they turned on him.
I mean we can point to management about the coaching decisions and at this point we should.
But I made fun of the Oilers for continually turning on coaches and going into business or themselves and they did it again last year when T-Mac was complaining about the effort levels of his team. So I have to take my shot at this Flames group of players, but at this point there can't be anymore excuses with the whole we hate the coach so we sucked. Its do or die with this group of players now, they can't use the coach as an excuse in my mind.
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Agree completely.
Loser organizations have GMs for three years and coaches for one or two and just keep on rinsing and repeating.
Treliving is on the cusp of a build and a window with some term that may get him into that Cliff Fletcher range ... needed.
But he has to get the coach right and have a Barry Trotz like run as well.
One can only hope that it wasn't "hate" but "were confused at some roster choices and ice time disparity" with Gulutzan.
I know Treliving hinted that a big issue for him was the differing opinions on the role of leadership for a coach vs a young core, suggesting maybe he was too hands off. If that's the case I doubt there was hate as much as confusion.