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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Would this zone exit idea have more or less validity and/or correlation with winning than Take aways or give aways?
1) Carolina lead the league in Take aways. Vegas was 2nd. Vegas passes the eye test in that they were a hard working team that competed in more situations than was the NHL norm. Carolina? maybe they had home ice officials who were more generous in awarding a take away? PS Flames as a team were 8th in team take aways.
2) a team with a lead will not forcheck hard to avoid getting trapped deep. A team trailing will fore check 2 and 3 guys deep even having their defense chasing loose pucks past the face-off circle. a team that is trailing more often than protecting a lead should have better forechecking stats.
ALL the fancy stats are extremely dependent on who does the counting.
Shots on goal for instance is done real time ( reported on the scoreboard) . I have not heard that after reviewing the game tapes that the Shots on goal were adjusted up or down.
If the Flames / Bruins / Canes SOG counter gives the team just 1 or 2 benefit of the doubt SOG / Shot Attempts/ Hits a period that throws off all the fancy stats comparisons by 10%.
I suspect that individual teams fancy stats departments has as their highest priority to break down game films and gathering consistent event statistics.
The teams that do their own stats gathering (what events stats collected and how they are collected)would not be interested in sharing them as they would provide the team with a distinct edge over NHL gathered and shared statistics.
IMHO there are people that are looking at the great fancy stats that Peter's Canes team generated and hoping that they will translate to a great hard to play against system for the Flames. How much validity do these stats have?
Were the Canes and Flames (last years great Fancy stats heros and low winning percentage teams) actually hard to play against that opposition teams were really glad to come out with points against?
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These are counted by an independent person who doesn’t affiliate with Calgary or Carolina.
I think he’s a sabres fan.
Zero bias. And there were plenty of iffy teams at the top of the effective forecheck list.
So.... no
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