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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
We should know this about Treliving. Like honestly this isn’t going to be popular and I like how he handles his negotiations but from what I can tell he likely lowballs the #### out of people. So Hanifin gets traded here and he’s yes probably excited about playing for the Flames and then he gets a contract offer and is like wtf???
Gaudreau too. Monahan to an extent. That Hamilton deal was outrageous. Any big name player. I’m sorry but we have Gaudreau at an Aav or under $7MM and he’s probably the best LW in the world. If I was Gaudreau and putting up 80 points (and let’s be honest, he has the ability to put up 80), you’re damn right I’m not going to be happy with 6.75AAV. When Gaudreau leaves after this contract is done it’s going to be because he felt taken advantage of because we had the leverage because he was RFA.
Hanifin owes Calgary nothing. He got traded here. And based on Trelivings history and negotiation practice you can see why he isn’t signed yet. Because he’s being lowballed compared to the market most likely. Will he sign? Yes. Because he has no other option and you’d be an idiot not to sign and sit out.
Here comes the posts about “well why did Gaudreau sign long term then?” Because when somebody offers you +30MM of risk free money you take it. But that doesn’t mean you don’t think you’re worth $50MM over 6 yrs and I bet you he is feeling that way right or wrong. He’s probably right, he’s worth >$50MM on a 6 year term today (and even when he was signed).
This is the elephant in the room I notice almost nobody talking about because they’re hockey players making millions. Well you know what? This is business and this is their market value. The elephant in the room is that Treliving lowballs a bit and while it’s great for now because we have absolutely fantastic current value contracts, this could be a recipe for disaster long term and very likely works against the Flames when it comes to fostering resentment with players that feel they’re paid far below market value but due to artificial restrictions are forced to sign at significant market discounts.
Don’t kid yourself if you don’t think the Flames will create a reputation here for being unfair to player contracts / taking advantage of players.
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I’m going to politely say this is crap, Brad is doing his job. You are right Hanifin owes Calgary nothing, he also hasn’t accomplished much yet in the league and Treliving is not gonna give him an overblown contract because he traded for him. Tkachuk is due for a raise next offseason and they have acquired more pieces this offseason and cap management in this league is crucial. I’m glad we have a gm that fights for every penny then one who does not, that’s his job. If Gaudreau walks away because he wanted 7 mill compared to 6.75 then he wasn’t gonna stay anyways.