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Old 12-11-2006, 10:06 AM   #156
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Originally Posted by FireFly View Post
Right. So two wrongs make a right. Because SOME Christians are ignorant about ALL gays, that makes it okay for SOME gays to be ignorant to ALL Christians?

I'm not saying society has given a free card either way, I'm asking why we don't hold gay people to the same expectations we have of religious people. It's not right in either case, but I've never heard gays called bigots or haters, even though it's a two way street. It's just that one way is more publicised.
I call anyone who discriminates a bigot. I am guilty as charged as far as that goes. I certainly am not going to apologize for it. If you discriminate, you deserve the label.

If you believe that one group of adults have a right, and another group should not, then you do not believe in equality.

If one does not believe in equality, then one is discriminating on the basis of one's beliefs. Hence the label "bigot" is appropriately applied.

If a religous organization was against interracial marriage, I would call the entire organization biggoted. I would consider anyone who supports that orgainzation to be bigotted as well.

I see no difference between the social acceptance of interracial marriage in the 1950's and 60's, and gay marriage today.

Tolerance and the acceptance of others moves slowly in our society. Mostly on account of institutions like "the church" which hold people back from embracing plurality - "the bible says its a sin" - contrary to rationality and in many cases (like FireFly's statement that she hates "the sin", but not "the sinner") the personal beliefs of its members. FireFly doesn't hate gays, and has said as much. She just doesn't think they should have the right to marry because they aren't equal according to scripture.

I have to wonder - if the bible was silent on homosexuality, would people still oppose gay marriage?

What if scripture opposed Asian marriage instead? How would you feel then? Does it seem worthwhile to deny a right to people because of what a book says; contrary to all other facts surrounding the issue?

There is no rational explanation for denying two consenting adults the right to marry. It is a shame gays have to fight for equality in 2006 in Canada.

Oh, wait a minute! According to the title of this thread, they don't anymore. They've won!

Hizzah!
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