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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The stats show a relationship for picks in one sport. I used it as an example to illustrate that there is also one in hockey (I wasn't guessing anything).
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Watermelons weigh several pounds. I guess you could use those as an example to illustrate that there's a 10-pound kumquat out there. But it would be invalid reasoning.
If you want to show HOW MUCH more valuable the #3 pick is over the #4 IN HOCKEY, you need numbers FROM HOCKEY. You have presented no evidence that the numerical ratios in football are the same as in hockey. The only possible evidence would be to actually show the numbers for hockey, and you have already admitted that you cannot do that.
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It is a valid representation for illustrating that there is a more significant difference between top picks than between the picks after #4.
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No, it is not, because the data are taken from a different population.
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You can choose to agree or disagree, but trying to argue that using an example is not a valid use of statistics is pretty funny.
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You are using a watermelon as an example of a kumquat.
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For some reason, you feel the need to 'win' arguments.
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I feel the need to call out blatantly foolish and wrong remarks, because they degrade the discussion.
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I gave reasons why I think they should have kept their pick.
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Your reasons depended upon an invalid use of mathematics. I pointed that out, and instead of finding data that would actually support your contention, you just got butthurt about it.
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You have given reasons why you think differently. Great. That is where it should have ended - they're opinions.
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Numbers are not opinions. Whether numbers measure X or Y is not an opinion. That it is invalid in mathematics to generalize about X when the numbers measure Y is not an opinion.
Your facts and methodology are wrong, and that is not a matter of opinion.
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But no, you have to try and prove the other person wrong every time.
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A moment ago, you were claiming that your views were factual. Now they're just opinions, and I'm hurting your wittle feels because I'm a big meanie who argues for no reason.
Gotcha.
Pathetic, really. If you can't bear to be argued with, you shouldn't argue.