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Old 08-05-2018, 11:20 AM   #665
CliffFletcher
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You're damned right its easier. Even in the very "traditionally Canadian" way you attempt to frame your comparison. As a white person you aren't profiled all day long by the majority.
So non-white Canadians in 2018 are profiled all day long by the majority?

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As you sit in your cubical at work it is much more likely you have the job in question over a visible minority because you had obvious advantages that the other people did not. As a white person you have things much easier because the system has been setup to benefit you.
Actually my workplace, in the tech sector, is disproportionately Asian. What systemic advantages have my Asians co-workers been granted to account for their disproportionate representation in these high-paying fields?

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The system was established by white people, and the laws and rules have been set up to maintain that systemic advantage. It may not be as overt in Canada as it is in the United States, but the same systemic advantage exists for the white majority.
What tangible, systemic advantages do white Canadians in 2018, as a group, have over people of color in Canada?

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And here is where the strawman has been constructed. No one is saying that everyone white person should feel the same, because every white person's situation is NOT the same. There are massive advantages for some white people over others. Those with money and position naturally have more power and access than those without. That is obvious, and holds regardless of culture.
And yet here on this forum, in the media, in entertainment, in academia, there is 5x or 10x more concern and anger expressed over racial and gender disparity than over economic disparity. Class is far more of a taboo than race.

The platform produced by the UK Labour party's most recent party conference included dozens of references to race and gender, and only a handful of references to class. A party that has it roots in workshop canteens is now the part of intersectionalists academics and gender columnists who went to Oxford. And not surprisingly, that party (along with the Democrat party in the U.S.) is hemorrhaging white working class voters.

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So who do you think has the advantage and better access? ...The WHITE 50 year old trying to retrain after his knees are shot from laying carpet for 30 years or the BLACK 50 year old trying to retrain after his knees are shot from laying carpet for 30 years?
Explain how the white carpet layer trying to retrain in Canada in 2018 has advantages and better access. What specific advantages are those?

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The system has been setup to protect a certain type of people.
Was the system in Canada set up to protect Jews and Asians?

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But now that the white majority is being threatened, and minorities are demanding equality and fair access those very systems white people have taken advantage of for decades, now there is a problem. When you're accustomed to privilege, the very attempt to offer equality feels like oppression.
What specific laws and government policies in Canada in 2018 do you think denies fair access to non-whites? Where is your evidence that most white Canadians are angry that our post-secondary institutions, for example, have increasingly non-white student bodies?
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