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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Is it me or is this going in a weird direction?
Look the whole concept of a armed population being the last line of defense against a tyrannical government makes little to no sense. The world has changed since the 1700 and 1800's when it would have been poorly trained and equip soldiers going against a civilian base that was probably equally armed and just as poorly trained.
Even in the terrible shape that its in, a modern day army against an enraged civilian base would be a wipe out. While your bullets are spranging off the front of an armored personal carrier while they're calling in accurate air strikes and artillery and your screaming as you're wife who was handing you bullets suddenly gurgles and goes down with a hole in her face because that extremely well trained 19 year old sniper saw movement.
So the question is then because I know its coming. Why did Western Armies fail against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan for example. Well frankly because 1st of all those countries have a history of fighting conquering powers going back generations, in the Western World, we're tremendously soft.
Second of all in Afghanistan and Iraq believe it or not the modern Western Powers tried to limit civilian casualties. I'm pretty sure that if a evil or repressive tyranny took over and a insurgency broke open with armed fat civilians, the order would be to make an example out of them.
Come on the well armed citizen militia doesn't exist anymore, the disparity between an armed civilian and a modern trained and even some what equip soldier is incredibly vast.
Oh and in the case of Red Dawn, as cool as it was. The only accurate scene was when the helicopter gunships got involved and tore Jennifer Grays intestines out her back.
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Yes this is moving in a weird direction for this thread (my bad sorry).
The army would vastly out equip the 'militia' if that scenario came about, I'd at least like to have my firearms to attempt to defend myself / family / community rather than just roll over and say this is fine.
At least i could use those to bug out into the wilderness.
That said I'm fairly confident that if the government was truly evil our armed forces or a significant portion, would disobey orders (albeit I'm not exactly 100% on how the chain of Command works in Canada, can the PM issue direct military orders? The only thing that comes to min is the War Measures Act. Although that could all change over time)