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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Paging This Post Is Terrible. Almost everything you posted here is absolute b.s. and hearsay. We get you hate the guy and that is your basis for why he should not be honoured but you are just so incredibly wrong.
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Please - this is hardly a "this post is terrible" worthy post other than it is a post that isn't throwing platitudes at one of your favorite players of all time.
Some people love him, some people don't. Ignore all the abundant character issues away, and you are left looking at:
- Achievements as a Flame
- Achievements/Awards league-wide
So, what current achievements does he have with the Flames?
1) Most SHG (28)
That's it. Sure, you can argue that I am being rather dismissive here as a player doesn't necessarily have to own 'x' amount of awards.
Let's look at league-wide awards. Stuff like the Art Ross, Hart, etc. Hmm... interesting. Zero. Zilch.
I get it. Fleury was a hero to many here for his accomplishments (?), his heart (?), and so on. I can understand why a large contingent of fans love this guy to death, but it is also very easily understandable why many don't either.
I just think the grade should be higher than a Theoren Fleury on getting honored. A better leader, a better example on and off the ice, a better team mate, etc. His stats alone are probably good enough to be retired - arguably anyway for a franchise - but hardly amazing enough for his character issues to be glossed-over and forgotten about.
You disagree, that's fine. Let's not pretend that "This Post is Terrible" should be given to any post that implies a player's character shouldn't be scrutinized, especially when it comes to something like honoring/retiring a player's jersey. On and off the ice should matter.