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Old 07-19-2018, 07:45 PM   #147
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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D. View Post
I read that Calgary4Life's long post to say:

1) Fleury didn't get along with some teammates. Meh. And maybe he didn't get along with Nieuwendyk because he knew Joe was going to screw the Flames?

1a) Apparently he may be a jerk to some people, but we shouldn't put any belief in that unless we have first hand experience. I'm assuming then that Calgary4Life has some first hand experience with this to put it out there, otherwise...

2) He admitted he didn't like to / doesn't need to practice. Again, meh. And unless he skipped out on practices, not sure what the big dust-up is unless we don't want players telling us anything about what they think.


If that was the "con" side of my ledger, I'd have a hard time seeing it overcome the "pro" side. To each their own.

Yes, it is easy to be dismissive of any post when you summarize them in such a manner. You can make basically anything sound trivial. This does not make my points wrong, irrelevant, or otherwise trivial in any way. Also, it wasn't just Nieuwendyk.


Your pro side is larger? Good for you. My con side is much larger, especially considering Fleury was always only interested in Fleury, not Flames. Even his offensive contributions were overblown. This is where I take a page out of Fleury's own book when he tried to take some of the luster off of Gaudreau:


I bet Fleury wouldn't have had the success he had in Calgary without much higher quality of teammates than what Iginla had to play through. Imagine replacing Iginla with Fleury on those teams. His point totals would have seriously taken a hit. Fleury's lack of quality teammates during his time in Calgary has always been the biggest exaggeration that keeps getting recycled.


Fleury was an incredibly selfish player in Calgary, a puck-hog who kept trying to do too much himself, who went to the media and told them how vastly superior he was as compared to the talentless scrubs he played with, and took selfish penalty after selfish penalty (with his diehard fans yelling "That's heart!").


Yeah, I am glad that he isn't honored or retired, and I hope he never does. He just isn't deserving of it, regardless of what your personal ledger says.
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