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Originally Posted by Monahammer
It's funny because in the cap management part you completely negated the aspects of the trade I promoted (dumping brouwer and brodie, clearing salary for stone) a long with the ancillary trade of getting rid of frolik in favor of signing stone as an rfa or something (which I said was a bad idea for those exact reasons.) My plan should leave enough room for a major upgrade to tkachuks contract. It might make Bennett more difficult to sign, but only if he actually starts developing this season. If he does it will be a very good problem (it's easier to keep people when you're winning)
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Your plan is extremely short sighted. So now you say you’re moving Brodie as well, and some how getting Brouwer to waive his NTC to go to a tire fire in Ottawa. Brouwer isn’t going to waive to go to Ottawa. So take that out of your deal. But since you’ve included Brodie, now the blue line is down a player on top pair, that you now have to replace. So you’ve taken out a player from our top pair, along with the defenseman best situated to step into the NHL to back fill any loss on the blueline, and this is a good thing?
This time last year our defensive prospect depth was Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington, Fox and Hickey, which was a ridiculous collection of young talent. After the previous moves made, and then your suggestion, our defensive prospect depth is down to Valimaki and Kylington, and one of them being forced into the lineup because the Flames can’t afford to bring in a replacement!
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Jankowski and Anderson are good players, but you have to trade good to get good. Stone would have a larger impact on our roster than both combined. We dont lose any depth and actually make room for mangiapane to grow and perform. Czarnik too. It would leave our d a bit thinner but hanifin, valimaki, kulak, and harmonic are all still young so shouldn't need to be replaced too soon.
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There is more to hockey than scoring points. You need depth to compete and you need it at all positions. What you are doing is making a four/five for one deal that hurts the Flames depth at multiple positions. I wish people would get realistic about the Czarnik thing. He’s a 26 year old who didn’t score a goal last season and has five to his NHL career. The odds are grossly stacked against him. Add in his size issue, and the Flames are going to have to pick and choose their spots where they can use the guy. Mangiapane is also small, which is a strike against him. Like it or not, you need size to survive in the NHL. You can’t win with a team full of players sub-six foot and under 200 pounds. Your trade suggestion weakens the team more than it helps it, and in very big ways.