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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Even if you wanted to look at it from this perspective, first, wouldn't you want to get players actually under contract rather than two RFA's?
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The reason why these players were even available is because of their contract dispute. The key for me is that they are under team control for much longer. This is an absolutely KEY part of the value in the deal that is being under valued.
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
What do you think they're going to sign for, term and dollars? I have very little idea - I would ordinarily say that both of them turning down contract offers from the Canes a few days ago is a serious warning sign, but I don't know what to make of the current Canes management strategy.
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Meh. We often see players in a contract dispute get dealt and sign reasonable deals right away. Dougie did it here.
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
More importantly though, if this is the motivation for making the trade, it shouldn't affect their trade value, with the result that you shouldn't be losing the trade from a pure hockey perspective. Do other GMs know you're going to have trouble signing Fox? Is there some common knowledge that Hamilton is going to be asking for some exorbitant contract after 2021? There's no indication of that. So why would you not be able to get fair value for these guys? Surely you could have found that value somewhere, in some form.
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They did find value. In this deal. They acquired two highly drafted young core players. They don't come cheap. What on earth do you mean they could have found value? They did!
And I imagine as soon as Fox went back for another year in college, despite his hockey being good enough to turn pro, that it sent a signal to the other GMs that there could be an issue.
As for Hamilton, UFA status is key. Either you pay those guys big bank or you lose them.
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I mean, this doesn't even really address the team's key weakness - trading a 30-40 pt RW for a 40-50 pt C/RW, while downgrading your defense's transition game. To me, Lindholm seems like a potentially good fit with Backlund and Tkachuk, but you still don't have a first line RW. Maybe that deal is still in the works... Lots of summer left, I suppose. I'm just concerned that this is supposed to be that fix, and I don't think it is.
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Ferland got his points by playing with two elite offensive players. If Lindholm gets that same chance I think we'll see him outproduce Ferland while also be a superior two way player. Comparing points is a pretty surface level approach to assessing the players.