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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Where they were drafted is immaterial. 24 year old Dougie has 400+ NHL games and 200+ points. He's light years better than 24 year old Gio. This is a player who gets better every year, and I don't see why he's going to be less effective at 28, 29, 30 than now.
Should you not want to use the Gio example, consider former 1st round pick Brent Burns. Dougie's numbers by age 24 obliterate Brent Burns'. And I don't expect we're going to see Dougie take a year to play forward. Why are we trading 24 year old nicer Brent Burns?
He doesn't kill penalties. Anyone can kill penalties. Your job is to get in the way and ice the puck. You're basically a meat shield. They have Stone, Hamonic, Gio and Brodie who aren't needed for the 1st power play, so Dougie doesn't need to kill penalties. I guarantee before his career is done, Hamilton will be a fixture on the PK.
You trade Brodie and all you need to do is find another guy who can play in the top 4. Sign Thomas Hickey and I don't think we lose THAT much, all things considered. Trade Hamilton and you're immediately trying to find another Hamilton.
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You know who else was light years ahead of Gio at 24? Dion Phaneuf, Jay Bouwmeester so while you can show players getting better with age I can show how players peak before they are 25 and fizzle out (not saying that will happen with Hamilton)
Was Sougie any better in 18 as he was in 17? He scored more goals and scored less points. I would say he had back to back great years but don’t tell me he took a step from year 2 to year 3 in Calgary.
What does Brodie get us though? That has been my point all along. Where I disagree with most people that I am debating with is the hole moving Hamilton creates. Certainly it creates a hole but not a massive one that we cannot bounce back from.
Does Boston really miss Dougie with McAvoy and Carlo (not to mention still having Krug and Chara). I am hoping that the Flames will feel similar with 2 or more of Andersson, Kylington, Valimaki, Fox being able to fill those holes (while the Flames still have Gio, Brodie, Hamonic).
In my opinion the Flames have 4 top 6 forwards and 1 of those players is better suited to the third line (Backlund). Who on the team or in the system has top 6 potential? Maybe Jankowski and maybe Bennett and that is about it. We need another top 3/4 forward to add to Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk and the only trade chip we have that will get us that player is Hamilton.