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Old 06-07-2018, 03:34 PM   #13530
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV View Post
I also think ROR would be a terrible acquisition.

Tavares is a different situation because of this: He's a better hockey player than Sean Monahan and actually allows us to consider trading Sean Monahan for a RHS, or perhaps someone else like Jankowski. I don't believe for one second John Tavares and Sean Monahan would co-exist well (at least not insofar as Monahan could produce better than a 55 point-ish 2C if we acquired Tavares), because they're actually pretty similar in terms of the areas they like, the kind of speed they bring (or don't), and the fact that they're both LHS. I do think Tavares is better than Monahan though, and I would be willing to trade Monahan if we acquired Tavares.




I would say that standing pat isn't the worst option in the world. For starters I would like to see if Dougie Hamilton can play a more efficient role on our power play beyond volume shooter from the right side.

Second I strongly need to see if Tkachuk and Bennett can show some chemistry. Bennett possesses high end skill and if Tkachuk can dust that diamond off, we suddenly have a 2C and a 2nd line.

Third if Phillips or Foo can help our power play, that'd already be a huge upgrade. I believe Bennett has more to show.

Overall, though, I do want the team to go after someone. but going after Tier II and III lhs players without any consideration as to whether they could reproduce what they are doing there - so ROR, Hoffman, etc would be a huge mistake barring a lopsided no-brainer acquisition cost (i.e. Klimchuk for Hoffman). Tier II and III players should be RHS. You should never turn down an opportunity to acquire a Tier I player like Tavares though.
I'm not following the Tavares and Monahan can't co-exist logic. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm saying Monahan should be untouchable, and more than open to moving him to improve the team, especially if we already upgrade him with Tavares, but I'm not sure I get why he can't co-exist with Tavares.

The two LHS argument is pretty irrelevant IMO, given they won't play on the same line together. Understood that's two top 6 forwards with LHS, but does that really matter?

Your other argument seems to be you don't think Monahan can produce on the 2nd line. I don't share your concern, but it's not ridiculous to call into question what will his production be. I don't think Mony is at all reliant on Johnny to be a good contributor, but essentially what you are saying, by saying he can't put up 55 points on the second line is that Monahan isn't a top 6 forward in this league, and he's being propped up by his line mates (I'm sure namely Johnny). Do you actually believe Monahan is a bottom 6 forward in the NHL? I think he's a young center in this league that is currently a 1b or 2a center at this point. I don't see why we Tavares and him couldn't co-exist and why that would be bad for the Flames. Tavares is a legit 1a in this league, and all of a sudden we'd have a 1b or 2a playing on the second line. Sounds pretty good to me.
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