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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
I disagree, he squandered his opportunities. Plays die on his stick or he takes an offensive zone penalty. That's about as consistent we get with him.
And it's not like your examples started playing with their linemates. From Kelly, Soderberg, Spooner, Lucic, Eriksson, and then Marchand, Pastrnak proved himself on the fourth line, the third line, the second line and then got his opportunity on the first. Sometimes he dropped back down, as is the case for young developing players but he played himself back.
Draisaitl played with Yakupov his first year, moved up to play with Hall on the second line in his sophomore season and then got the opportunity with McDavid his third.
Bennett's trending backwards. He did play 20% of his time with Gaudreau in the previous season, this one he played less.
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Pastrnak
14/15:
38.3 LUCIC,MILAN - PASTRNAK,DAVID - SPOONER,RYAN
21.1 KREJCI,DAVID - LUCIC,MILAN - PASTRNAK,DAVID
10.5 KELLY,CHRIS - PASTRNAK,DAVID - SODERBERG,CARL
6.7 BERGERON,PATRICE - MARCHAND,BRAD - PASTRNAK,DAVID
4.5 KREJCI,DAVID - MARCHAND,BRAD - PASTRNAK,DAVID
3 LUCIC,MILAN - PASTRNAK,DAVID - SODERBERG,CARL
15/16:
42.9 ERIKSSON,LOUI - KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID
28.2 BELESKEY,MATT - KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID
5.3 BERGERON,PATRICE - MARCHAND,BRAD - PASTRNAK,DAVID
4.3 BELESKEY,MATT -
KEMPPAINEN,JOONAS - PASTRNAK,DAVID
16/17:
45.7 BERGERON,PATRICE - MARCHAND,BRAD - PASTRNAK,DAVID
9.8 KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID - STAFFORD,DREW
9.3 CEHLARIK,PETER - KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID
5.6 KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID - SCHALLER,TIM
5.1 BELESKEY,MATT - KREJCI,DAVID - PASTRNAK,DAVID
17/18:
45.7 BERGERON,PATRICE - MARCHAND,BRAD - PASTRNAK,DAVID
13.7 MARCHAND,BRAD - NASH,RILEY - PASTRNAK,DAVID
9.8 BERGERON,PATRICE - HEINEN,DANTON - PASTRNAK,DAVID
There's no one quite on the same level of bad as Troy Brouwer, and no time in Bennett's last 2 years has he had the consistency or talent level to play with. Pastrnak has been centered almost his entire career by Bergeron or Krejci.
Draisaitl
14/15:
15.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - EBERLE,JORDAN - YAKUPOV,NAIL
12 DRAISAITL,LEON - PERRON,DAVID - PURCELL,EDWARD
9.9 DRAISAITL,LEON -
POULIOT,BENOIT - YAKUPOV,NAIL
6.9 DRAISAITL,LEON -
PAKARINEN,IIRO - PURCELL,EDWARD
5.5 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR - PURCELL,EDWARD
5.2 DRAISAITL,LEON -
PITLICK,TYLER - YAKUPOV,NAIL
15/16:
43.8 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR - PURCELL,TEDDY
9.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR - NUGENT-HOPKINS,RYAN
7.7 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR -
KASSIAN,ZACK
4.6 DRAISAITL,LEON - EBERLE,JORDAN - HALL,TAYLOR
4.6 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR -
PAKARINEN,IIRO
4.4 DRAISAITL,LEON - HALL,TAYLOR -
YAKUPOV,NAIL
16/17:
44.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - MAROON,PATRICK - MCDAVID,CONNOR
6.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - LUCIC,MILAN - MCDAVID,CONNOR
5.6 DRAISAITL,LEON - MAROON,PATRICK - PULJUJARVI,JESSE
4.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - MAROON,PATRICK - NUGENT-HOPKINS,RYAN
17/18 (Lucic sucked this year):
25 DRAISAITL,LEON - MAROON,PATRICK - MCDAVID,CONNOR
9.1 DRAISAITL,LEON - LUCIC,MILAN - MCDAVID,CONNOR
8.8 DRAISAITL,LEON -
KHAIRA,JUJHAR - STROME,RYAN
6.7 CAMMALLERI,MICHAEL - DRAISAITL,LEON -
LUCIC,MILAN
Bennett
15/16 (Hudler sucked this year):
26.8 BACKLUND,MIKAEL - BENNETT,SAM - FROLIK,MICHAEL
6.0 BENNETT,SAM -
GRANLUND,MARKUS -
HUDLER,JIRI
5.4 BENNETT,SAM - FERLAND,MICHEAL -
JOORIS,JOSH
4.1 BENNETT,SAM -
GRANLUND,MARKUS -
RAYMOND,MASON
4.1 BENNETT,SAM -
COLBORNE,JOE - FERLAND,MICHEAL
16/17:
20.8 BENNETT,SAM -
BROUWER,TROY -
VERSTEEG,KRIS
13.5 BENNETT,SAM -
CHIASSON,ALEX - GAUDREAU,JOHNNY
11.3 BENNETT,SAM -
CHIASSON,ALEX -
VERSTEEG,KRIS
6.8 BENNETT,SAM -
CHIASSON,ALEX -
STAJAN,MATTHEW
5.4 BENNETT,SAM -
BROUWER,TROY - MONAHAN,SEAN
5.3 BENNETT,SAM - FERLAND,MICHEAL -
VERSTEEG,KRIS
17/18:
28.7 BENNETT,SAM -
HATHAWAY,GARNET - JANKOWSKI,MARK
10.1 BENNETT,SAM -
JAGR,JAROMIR - JANKOWSKI,MARK
7.6 BENNETT,SAM - GAUDREAU,JOHNNY - MONAHAN,SEAN
5.5 BENNETT,SAM -
BROUWER,TROY - JANKOWSKI,MARK
5.2 BENNETT,SAM - JANKOWSKI,MARK - LAZAR,CURTIS
...purple was probably not the best colour to highlight (*updated to red*), but I used it to highlight what I arbitrarily call "crappy 5v5 hockey players". If you're comparing circumstances they're not even close to each other. Sam Bennett, under Glen Gulutzan and thanks to poor organizational depth was absolutely set up to fail. There was very rarely a time when Bennett, who is incredibly young and still developing, didn't get lined up with an absolute dud, if not two of them.
Bennett "trending down" was almost entirely due to Gulutzan and the way he handled him as a centre, and the incredibly poor linemates he's consistently had to deal with. It's a bummer he can't carry them, but no other team around the league asks their young players to carry crappy teammates the way Gully asked Bennett to during the 16/17 season, and then again the way he asked Bennett and rookie centre Jankowski to carry awful RW'ers. Under Gully, this "trending down" period, it's also worth noting he's always played with a rookie centre - either himself, or Jankowski, on his line.