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Old 05-11-2018, 05:48 PM   #924
CliffFletcher
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As our population ages we need future generations to continue growing our society and economy. Creating future generations relies on both sexes, but on average woman face a much greater burden than men in doing so which through no fault of their own puts men in a position to prosper financially at a greater rate. As I mentioned earlier even if you don’t have children, being born as a member of the impregnable sex comes with other roadblocks to financial prosperity throughout life that men will also never face, so all woman face additional struggles, it isn’t just those who chose to have children.
The assumption behind this argument is that by earning less money and spending more time with their children, women are making a sacrifice. That may be true of some women who have families, but certainly not all. Or I'd guess even most.

One clue is female doctors. Safe to say that they're highly capable, ambitious people. And yet female doctors in Canada work far fewer hours in their careers than male doctors. Many cut back their hours or take leave when they have children. Why is that a bad decision that needs to be corrected? Can't we give those women enough credit to believe they've made a choice that makes them happier?

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In a society where wealth dictates your quality of life and ability to prosper, woman will never be on a level playing field with men until there is an acknowledgement that woman face natural challenges which put them at a disadvantage as it relates to personal economic growth, and we actually address it. If we understand that future generations are necesary for our society to continue to thrive and that woman and men are both equally required to create those generations, then we need to find a way to eliminate the economic barriers that only woman are naturally forced to face. Otherwise we are basically saying that even though women are just as important as men to the big picture, we’re ok with maintaining the status quo of them having a much harder time than a man does to achieve and maintain the same level of financial success.
Why is it so difficult to understand that a great many people do not base their major life decisions solely on how much money they will make? Or see themselves in a collective gender struggle?

One of the reasons feminist pundits have such tremendous difficulty understanding this stuff is because they're less likely than the average women to have children, and they tend to be highly career focused. They simply can't put themselves in the shoes of a person for whom a job is simply a way to make money, not the primary source of status and self-worth. And they don't seem to understand families who look at their income collectively. My wife doesn't give a crap whether it's me who earns $10k more or her, it all goes into the same pot. And if me earning 20% more meant she could work one fewer day a week, she'd take that trade in a minute.

And if the concern is that women who make a sacrifice to income are vulnerable in the case of divorce, that's why we have child support and spousal support payments.
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