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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Try suggesting there are factors besides systemic prejudice responsible for the dire social conditions among the indigenous population in Canada. The taboos around publicly talking about non-structural factors in outcomes will make themselves pretty clear to you.
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There’s definitely taboos around it, but I also think it’s part of how “debate” has evolved on the internet. You see it from both sides of any issue, “You said ____, which is consistent with my perception of people who think ____, so you think ____.”
Not a positive think, definitely, makes things more difficult to navigate.
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Canada (and countries like Germany and Japan) are pretty good at it. The U.S. and the UK, not very good. The former have much more social mobility than the latter. So let's recognize that we're doing a lot right.
In Canada, educational attainment tracks to parental income a lot less tightly than it does in the U.S. or UK, because schools are still fairly diverse and egalitarian. Which is why we should be wary of the trend in this country towards American-style self-segregation of schools and school boards by family income. The Fraser Institute's reports contribute to this kind of self-segregation, by encouraging the bright, ambitious, and affluent to all send their kids to the same best schools.
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I think that’s a big part of the conversations being had. America is our biggest influence, and it’s a very very dangerous and negative influence when it comes to social and economic issues. Education, the welfare state and social issues in general, environmental protection, etc, all things that we are ahead of America on yet at risk of moving backwards on if politicians start trying to mimick south of the border.