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Old 05-04-2018, 03:24 PM   #39
Oling_Roachinen
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Pitbulls were not bred for fighting. Eventually people turned them into fighters.
Care to elaborate? Pit bulls (which is a blanket term for several dogs) came from dogs that were specifically bred to bull-bait. They were then bred to attack small animals like rats or bred to fight bears and other dogs. Is that not correct?
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I also blame the owners. I think that anyone who gets these kinds of dogs need to take training classes of some sort. I don't think we will ever see these breeds gone forever though. People should start going to jail when their dog attacks/kills a person. They are ultimately responsible for their dogs behaviour and if more people were punished somehow for having dogs who are out of their control, we would have less of these incidence.
As someone who has been vocal about making non-hunting guns unavailable, why don't you blame the owners for the use of their guns?
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And another AR-15 used in the car wash shooting linked above. Why are these still available? Get rid of them already.
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Only thing I can think of is destroying all firearms that aren't used for hunting (semi and auto firearms, hand guns, etc). People don't need those types of weapons.
The advocates for auto firearms are saying the same thing as you. It's not the guns fault, it's the owner. Make training mandatory, harsher punishment for bad owners, but don't take away the rights of the good owners. etc.

In a perfect world where owners were responsible, it doesn't matter if they had an AK-47, pitbull, nuclear weapon, there would be concern. But that isn't the case, we have idiots who don't take responsibility and we end up with injuries and fatalities that otherwise would not exist. There's a line between personal freedoms and public safety. I'm not convinced that the personal freedom to own a pitbull trumps public safety at this point, I haven't seen much in way of a good argument preventing someone else from getting a different dog other than "because."

Of course, I realize others see it differently and I can respect that. And as a dog lover I would never wish to destroy or remove a pet from a responsible owner. I just personally don't see a need to continuously breed them.
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