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Old 05-03-2018, 02:27 PM   #11500
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
5 on 5 pts per 60 is so over-used. People are using it here like it is some sort of measure of how good the player is. There are WAY too many variables to make those kinds of conclusions.

Take the same player, put them on a better team with better linemates, and in more positive situations, and their p/60 is going to go up. Not because they just became a better player, but because their situation is different.
Those are all overcome if you use it to compare guys that you know play comparable roles / situations. Plus that critique is not any different than traditional measure of points/goals/assists.

In Backlund's case he is a guy who you know actually plays against other teams top lines / always in tough situations and then you comparable to guys on better teams, not as tough situations and those stats are similar.

Not sure how that would be anything but positive for Backlund.

Plus the best players tend to have better p/60, just helps you normalize for ice time and games missed.

For example here is the top 10 in Even Strength pts/60 the last two years.

16/17:

1)Sheary (Considering his centers were the next two guys maybe not that surprising, also probably not surprising the Pens won the cup)
2)Malkin
3)Crosby
4)Guentzel
5)McDavid
6)Scheifele
7)Marchand
8)Laine
9)Kane
10)Kucherov
22)Gaudreau

17/18

1)McDavid
2)Marchand
3)MacKinnon
4)Mark Stone
5)Marchessault
6)Malkin
7)Giroux
8)Matthews
9)Kucherov
10)Schwartz
14)Gaudreau

Last edited by SuperMatt18; 05-03-2018 at 02:35 PM.
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