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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Probably, but what point would that prove? We already know Darryl Sutter was not a great GM in this regard. But he left over half a decade ago, and before our rebuild, so there's nothing of value to be had. You would be far better off looking up how many games, goals, wins, etc. players you drafted have given you from this year's roster.
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Because it sets up the context. You can't evaluate a draft until 4-5 years later, right? So how can we know what assets the Flames are dealing with unless we look back in time roughly to roughly the same period. It's a generational thing with the flames of constantly being asset poor, and until a GM actually addresses that it will keep happening. Look where the team is at now.
Again, all of our favourite prospects came from drafting multiple times; from assets that were not original property of the Flames.
Parsons selected with a pick originally belonging to Florida. Dube a pick originally belonging to Dallas. Phillips with a pick originally belonging to Minnesota. Rasmus a pick originally belonging to Vancouver. Kylington a pick originally belonging to...
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And to that end, I'll segway into something I noticed for the Bruins when I was looking up the previous chart: Between 2007-2013, they sucked at building through the draft.
2007: Nada (2 picks in the first 3 rounds, 6 picks total)
2008: Joe Colborne (never played for them), Michael Hutchinson (never played for them) (3 picks in the first 3 rounds)
2009: Nada (2 picks in the first 3 rounds, 5 picks total)
2010: Tyler Seguin (traded early), Ryan Spooner (3 picks in the first 3 rounds, 8 picks total)
2011: Dougie Hamilton (traded early), (3 picks in the first 3 rounds, 6 total)
2012: Matt Benning (never played for them) (2 picks in the first 3 rounds, 6 picks total)
2013: Nada (2 picks in the first 3 rounds, 6 total, no 1st rounder)
Seven years, and they pulled only three players of any note that even suited up for them. The two major names were dealt after only three seasons. The Bruins are bloody lucky that they hit a home run in 2014 with Pastranak, or else they'd be staring at the abyss right now. And they did that with only five picks for the entire draft.
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Every team that picks a player that does anything is lucky; there's no accounting for that. If the Flames were so smart they would've picked Gaudreau with their first pick.
But often what separates good teams from bad is knowing when and how to sell assets for picks and making the concerted effort to get picks back. Not warm bodies like hanowski and agastino The Flames haven't ever really prioritized this, and aside from his first year or so, neither has Tre.
When you look at the bruins draft history, some things pop out. DeBrusk and Carlo, two players out of 6 picks. The year they win the cup they draft Hamilton, not with their own pick, but with someone elses. The year before when they draft Seguin, again, not their pick, someone elses. The year they draft Lucic, they use Edmonton's 3rd rounder they got for Samsonov.
There's a trend here, and that trend is cutting bait when you're not quite good enough and someone offers you significant value of future assets for your now asset. But that's just part of the equation, the other part is also keeping your own picks as best you can to accumulate chances.
Glencross for a 2nd and a third. How freakin' good does that trade look right now? Why can't the Flames ever seem to make more of those trades?