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Old 04-24-2018, 12:58 PM   #1928
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Are you arguing that it wasn't Peter's management skills that were in conflict with Staal but his High Corsi low shooting % system that drove Staal to question what he was doing playing hockey?
Nope I was saying that coaching > love of his game > performance was not a straight and directly correlated line.

Trying to say all of it is because of a coach or a system is ludicrous. Even just looking at just offensive performance is a stupid way of looking at it.

Sutter is clearly a great coach, and his teams were successful, but players didn't have anywhere close to their best seasons from an individual production perspective under him.

Carter only joined the team after Sutter was coach and actually had his best seasons in Philadelphia.

Doughty had 59 points under Terry Murray, then only cracked 50 in one of 5 seasons under Sutter. Had 60 points for the first time in his career this season.

Dustin Brown was almost bought out because he declined so much under Sutter that he looked like a 30 point player, and now returned to 60 points after Sutter left.

Kopitar had the best individual production season this year in the first year after Sutter.

Quick has his best save percentage this season since the first season under Sutter.

So from an individual performance perspective these guys actually had better seasons this year but that doesn't mean Sutter is a bad coach, or that the team was actually any better than they were with Sutter. Sutter was a great coach that got these guys to sacrifice some individual performance for the good of the team.

I think sometimes people forget those Kings teams had a 101 pt season, and a 98 pt season the two years before Sutter got there before they added Richards and Carter. Sutter came in and got them success in the playoffs (which should be valued a lot) but he didn't make them any better of a team in the regular season.

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