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Enoch Root · 04-22-2018, 08:01 AM

Thanks DeluxeMoustache - great write-up.

I am a big believer in the 'get the goalie moving' argument, and especially passes across the Royal Road (bad name though).

I would like to see these stats for the Flames offensively. We can sit here and say they are too static, too set, but we need data to know for sure. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that they had fewer of these types of chances.

I am actually even more interested about this type of data defensively. IMO, when you play a more passive defensive strategy, being concerned more with positioning and getting sticks in lanes, you are far more vulnerable to the cross-ice pass. Teams have time to set these plays up because they aren't being pressured as much. And again, I don't have the stats for the Flames, but it sure seems to me that they give up a lot of those. In fact, I think that is the source of their problems defensively (one major source, to be more accurate).

I haven't watched Peters' teams enough to know how he coaches, but I have read a couple comments that make me think he employs a similar passive defensive strategy to Gulutzan (and some of the stats from last year seem to back that up). If that is the case, I will be very disappointed. That would probably be the end of Treliving for me (and I am a big supporter of Treliving).

I wonder if there is any way we can get these stats for the Flames.

04-22-2018, 08:01 AM	#7
Enoch Root Franchise Player Join Date: May 2012 Exp:	Thanks DeluxeMoustache - great write-up. I am a big believer in the 'get the goalie moving' argument, and especially passes across the Royal Road (bad name though). I would like to see these stats for the Flames offensively. We can sit here and say they are too static, too set, but we need data to know for sure. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that they had fewer of these types of chances. I am actually even more interested about this type of data defensively. IMO, when you play a more passive defensive strategy, being concerned more with positioning and getting sticks in lanes, you are far more vulnerable to the cross-ice pass. Teams have time to set these plays up because they aren't being pressured as much. And again, I don't have the stats for the Flames, but it sure seems to me that they give up a lot of those. In fact, I think that is the source of their problems defensively (one major source, to be more accurate). I haven't watched Peters' teams enough to know how he coaches, but I have read a couple comments that make me think he employs a similar passive defensive strategy to Gulutzan (and some of the stats from last year seem to back that up). If that is the case, I will be very disappointed. That would probably be the end of Treliving for me (and I am a big supporter of Treliving). I wonder if there is any way we can get these stats for the Flames.