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Originally Posted by Peaceful Warrior
I would be happy with Sutter, Vigneault, or Peters (who seem to be the Board's favourite and the rumoured favourite), but I'm surprised at the analysis going on with regard to Peters. There seems to be a lot of focus on his last four years compared to Sutter and Vigneault's career records, but if you look at the last four years of all three, and the first 3 years (as NHL coaches) of all three, they are basically all hovering right around 500.
In other words, 4 years in to their careers as coaches, Sutter and Vigneault had very similar success as Peters has had. And in the last few years all three have had similar records with Peters probably having the least impressive line-up, and goaltending that doesn't compare to Quick or Lundqvist.
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That is just not actually true, it is as they say "Fake news". I am kinda confused as to whether you are talking about the last 4 years for Sutter and Vigneault or the first 4 years, but in either case, this is what the actual numbers say
1st 4 years
Sutter - .544 hockey (this was also in an era where .500 meant something as you did not get any loser points)
Vigneault - .533 hockey (again for 3 out 4 of these years .500 meant something as Vigneault also did not get the advantage in those years of having a loss not count as a loss for .500 purposes)
Peters - .498 hockey (Bill got the advantage of his losses not counting as losses in some of the games. If you count all losses, Bill Peters has a .418 winning percentage over his first 4 seasons)
Nonetheless, regardless of the fact that Sutter and Vigneault (for the most part) did not get loser points, over an average 82 game season, they averaged the following numbers of points in each season
Sutter - 89 points a season
Vigneault - 87 points a season
Peters - 81 points a season
If you look at Sutter and Vigneault's last 4 seasons the results are as follows
Sutter - .584
Vigneault - .599
Over an 82 game season they averaged
Sutter - 96 points
Vigneault - 98 points
2 of those 3 coaches are significantly above .500 in both their first 4 years and their last 4 years. One of those coaches in a middling .500 coach over his first 4 years and his last 4 years.