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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I'm not sure your post makes sense. If Gulutzan's team looked good but couldn't finish - that's not a systems problem to me, it's a player problem.
It's funny that you say outside of 5 players that "most other forwards" have been underwhelming and that they've produced better in other systems. Who are you talking about? Frolik had his highest production under GG (albeit not a lot more than when he was in Winnipeg and he was out for more games under Hartley). Lazar had his second highest season under GG. But Hathaway and Jankowski haven't really played under anyone else at the NHL level. Stajan, Brouwer and Jagr - do you think a different coach gets more goals out of them? The only ones a different coach might impact are Bennett and maybe Brouwer.
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We've talked about the team moving into a less structured system about halfway through last year, starting with our 10 game streak through the rest of the year. This year they played the system fully the whole way through to the same results as we saw in the first half of last year.
Frolik has been a 0.5PPG player for several years, including his first year in Calgary under Hartley, as well as his first year under Gulutzan (lets be honest last year was only two points more than he had both his final two years in Winnipeg). Also worth noting that Frolik had 6g in his first 15 games last year and then only 11 in his remaining 68g (similar to his production this year)
Bennett looked great playing on the wing in the playoffs under Hartley as well as his rookie year the following year. He has had consistency issues and been snakebitten for periods throughout his whole career, but that has been exacerbated the last two years under Gulutzan, including his goal scoring dropping each year.
Brouwer was a consistant 40+ point player for Washington and St Louis. We're talking about a player that averaged 20 goals per season for the 7 years prior to him coming to Calgary. In his two seasons as a Flame, he has 19.
You bring up Lazar having his second best season under Gulutzan. It was actually his third best, and he has only played three full NHL seasons. Hmm....
If we move to talking defence, clear drop in Brodie's production, as well as Hamonic's worst season as a pro. Also a 20% drop in Gio's totals. These are all big parts of the team on the bottom 6 and defence that are providing underwhelming and regressive results in Gultuzan's system.
Moot point since he was fired now, but wanted to respond to your post regardless.