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Old 04-15-2018, 07:12 PM   #495
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I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. Going by the reaction of people who have read his book and watched his lectures or speeches, there is a LOT more in there than just your basic self-help guide. Your arrogance in trying to reduce the difference he's made in people's lives to nothing but 'basic self help' is strange.

He's not just a professor thrown in the spotlight. He is a clinical psychologist who obviously has a lot of experience working with troubled kids who you so sarcastically refer to as 'lost boys' as if there if something wrong with appealing to that demographic.
Question: Have you read the book?

I actually have, and, there is nothing in it that puts it above any other self-help guide, aside from it’s specific audience (which is a rare focus). I don’t see how it’s arrogant, I’m not the first person to think so and I’m unlikely the last. Lots of self-help guides make a difference in people’s lives, what gives you the right to place the difference Peterson makes to young men above any other basic self-help guide makes to anyone else?

I’m aware of who he is, and I’m aware of how he put himself in the spotlight very particularly.

As I said, I find it very fascinating how people (your post is a good example) just sort of... embrace it, because he’s speaking to an audience who isn’t normally spoken to. It’s rarely concrete examples of what is so astounding about it, it’s things like “He’s a clinical psychologist, so it MUST be good”... or “People say it helped them! So it MUST be more than basic!” and, weirdly, this seems to be from people who haven’t even read the thing.

Not everything he says is gold, he makes some interesting points, and, I think, is good at making people think of things in a different way. But it’s just strange watching him gather this cult-like status, people just blindly defending anything and everything, sight unseen, and throwing their money towards him.

Among all the help he provides are some basic, sometimes stupid or funny, sometimes just socially conservative ideas backed up by... religion, a lot of the time. So I guess that’s fine if that’s what you’re happy with.
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