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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Look at Anaheim for example Jay.
They hit on Ritchie, Montour and Kase in 2014. (We got Bennett, McDonald, Hunter Smith, Hickey AOM and Carroll)
Because they hit on Montour they were able to trade Vatanen (a 4th round pick) for a very good #2 NHL center.
In 2013 they hit on Theodore. Right in the same area the Flames picked up gems like Poirier and Klimchuk. But hey, they lost Theodore for squat because of expansion. But they are still a playoff team because they hit on other D like Lindholm, Fowler and Manson (6th round pick). Lindholm and Fowler were 1st rounders, but teasm like Anaheim not only hit deep in the draft,but they rarely waste high picks unlike Calgary.
In the 2012 draft they hit on Frederik Andersen (3rd round after Gillies) and collected a pile of NHL wins from him before trading him for more picks becasue they had already drafted John Gibson (39th overall).
They drafted Palmieri 26th OA, a 20+ goal 50+ point winger and flipped him for picks.
They drafted Rackell 30th overall, a legit top 6 forward.
They drafted 40 goal scorer William Karlsson 59th OA and ####ed up by trading him too early but are still a perennial playoff team because they continue to draft well all the damn time.
They drafted Justin Schultz, and he screwed them.
They drafted Jake Gardiner and traded him for a vet Dman.
None of that matters. Playoffs, division title, division title, playoffs, division title, over and over and over for Anaheim.
But yeah, let's hang our hats on the Flames and their two massive hits outside the 1st round in the last 10 years in Brodie and Johnny.
How anyone can point to just Johnny, Brodie, Ferland and defend the Flames drafting and development at this point is beyond me.
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Totally agree with what you said, but while I hate Treliving's coaching decisions, i do like the direction of his drafting. He does seem to focus more on skill by drafting guys like Mangiapane, Dube, Philips, Fox, Valimaki, Anderson, Kylington, etc.
I know he was GM in 2014, but I don't think he got the job prior to the draft and i'm not sure how much input he was allowed to give. Don't know for sure if he was responsible for duds like Hunter Smith, Mason Mcdonald, etc. Honestly, when I look at the Coyotes 2014 selections, that looks more like a Treliving draft than the Flames one. The Flames selections have Burke written all over it. Truculance and size up and down; a Burke-Leaf era draft list.