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Old 04-13-2018, 11:00 AM   #836
Erick Estrada
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Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
We need to look deeper into this.

Its not perimeter shots, the Flames were fourth in the league in scoring chances defined as "Scoring Chance For" with 2618, behind only Toronto, Chicago and Pittsburgh.

They were 3rd in the league in splits of said scoring chances with 55%.

They were 2nd in the league behind only Toronto in High Danger Corsi For (home plate unblocked) with 1077 (Toronto had 1078), and 4th in the league in high danger splits with 54.23% behind only Minnesota, Dallas and Caroline, just ahead of Tampa.

It's too simplistic to just rail against corsi stats with jockular comments about out corsiing the opposition or shooting from everywhere because the numbers say they got in the "kitchen" more than most clubs.

So why didn't they score?

Talent?

Are their "events" less dangerous than the rest of the league's due to how they set up?

I'm open to any and all of it, but deeming them a perimeter team isn't supported.
I understand what you are saying and I also understand that this team wasted an awful lot of scoring chances with missed shots. There's no doubt this was a bit of a hard luck team but at the same time there was a lot of nights where you could look up on the scoreboard and see the Flames outshooting their opponents without the recollection of many legit scoring chances for. The problems aren't all Gulutzan of course as if there was a stat for shots directly into goaltenders bread basket the Flames would dominate the that stat. I respect that you put in the work to dig in and provide us these advanced stats but I keep going back to the eye test as this team simply never looked great all season for the most part despite what recorded stats may indicate. The Flames were 6th overall in shots per game and 27th in goals for per game and I simply don't accept that such a large disparity is due simply to bad luck or bad players as in my mind there's no doubt their shot totals were inflated. They were not a very good team this season by every measure except advanced stats so much like 2014/15 the Flames defied the stats which goes to show the only thing that really matters is the results.

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