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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
"your argument is incorrect that the Flames under Hartley were worse defensively than the Flames under Gulutzan?"
My argument is 100% correct based on facts. I would agree that Hiller was absolutely awful in 15-16, but he also played only 26 games that season of Hartley's entire 4 year tenure. You spent a lot of time trying to defend Hartley's defensive system, but all you have to do is look at how many goals this team allowed under him.
12-13 = 29th in GA (despite having Miikka Kiprusoff)
13-14 = 23rd in GA
14-15 = 15th in GA
15-16 = 30th in GA
As you can see, the stats don't lie. 75% of the seasons under Hartley, we were amongst the worst in the league in goals allowed, if not the worst. He played an entertaining system, but we gave up too many goals and that's partly why he was canned and likely why he's still out of work today.
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Did you even read his post?
He basically said that goals against is a product of both defensive play AND quality of goaltending.
The reason Hartley was canned more than anything, and there are lots of sources that prove this, including the morning show at least once a week is that Hartley was an ####### and a jerk of a human being.
Imagine how bad those Hartley teams would’ve been if GG was coaching them instead... we’d probably have Austin Matthews AND Mcdavid