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Old 04-08-2018, 10:17 PM   #670
Itse
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger View Post
Your only argument against advanced stats is you don’t understand them and you don’t trust them.
No, my argument is that the, commonly known and advanced stats I'm talking about
(shot-based metrics) are statistically proven to be of dubious value, and I strongly suspect they have a negative impact on decision-making and evaluations. The latter part is not something I need to back up in any way, although I think I've adequately explained why I think that is.

I'm also strongly against the idea that you can make an informed counterargument against primary stats using secondary stats on the question of how well the team is playing in general, and I find it relevant because using secondary stats to make that specific argument have been common. ("Flames are about to turn a corner.")

Your argument seems to be that there exists non-shot-based advanced stats that are widely used and considered significant, which in your mind somehow invalidates what I'm saying, although I don't understand why you think it would.

Since you think you simply know better, would you care to show what stats exactly are you talking about, and why do you assume all teams are using those stats.

BTW, I do know PDO also exists, and I have no problem with it although I don't think there's that much you can do with it really. But it's really just two traditional stats combined, and they do give statistically relevant info on how the team is doing. Nor sure it's helpful beyond that simple question though

And no, PDO is not luck. It's in the same article I linked.

Last edited by Itse; 04-08-2018 at 11:15 PM.
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