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Mike F · 04-08-2018, 12:59 PM

The most often cited problem with the 17/18 Flames roster lately, both on this board and in the media, is the current team's "Character". This has been expanded upon to refer to the roster's compete level, hatred of losing, commitment, mental toughness/fragility, lack of identity, amongst others.

That's a complete 180 from the 14/15 team, which was renowned as being a relentless team, that was hard to play against, and would never give up.

So let's look at the two rosters....

14/15

Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler
Bouma-Backlund-Jones
Raymond-Jooris-Colborne
Bollig-Stajan-Byron

Giordano-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Diaz-Engelland

17/18

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski -Brouwer
Hathaway - Stajan - Shore

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone

IMO, there is some significant continuity in the core, with Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Giordano, and Brodie playing significant roles on both teams.

So how much can the change in depth be credited as the source of the change in "character"? Were Bouma, Jones, Jooris, Byron, etc., fueling the engine in a way that Brouwer, Frolik, and Hathaway couldn't? Or were Russell, Engelland, and Wideman (who hated to lose so much he's punch a linesman) that much more of a source of "character" than Hamilton, Hamonic, Stone, and Kulak.

And how much can be pinned on the identity of the team coming from two very different coaches?

04-08-2018, 12:59 PM	#1
Mike F Franchise Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Djibouti Exp:	14/15 vs. 17/18 - A Tale of Two "Character" Teams The most often cited problem with the 17/18 Flames roster lately, both on this board and in the media, is the current team's "Character". This has been expanded upon to refer to the roster's compete level, hatred of losing, commitment, mental toughness/fragility, lack of identity, amongst others. That's a complete 180 from the 14/15 team, which was renowned as being a relentless team, that was hard to play against, and would never give up. So let's look at the two rosters.... 14/15 Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler Bouma-Backlund-Jones Raymond-Jooris-Colborne Bollig-Stajan-Byron Giordano-Brodie Russell-Wideman Diaz-Engelland 17/18 Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik Bennett - Jankowski -Brouwer Hathaway - Stajan - Shore Giordano - Hamilton Brodie - Hamonic Kulak - Stone IMO, there is some significant continuity in the core, with Gaudreau, Monahan, Backlund, Giordano, and Brodie playing significant roles on both teams. So how much can the change in depth be credited as the source of the change in "character"? Were Bouma, Jones, Jooris, Byron, etc., fueling the engine in a way that Brouwer, Frolik, and Hathaway couldn't? Or were Russell, Engelland, and Wideman (who hated to lose so much he's punch a linesman) that much more of a source of "character" than Hamilton, Hamonic, Stone, and Kulak. And how much can be pinned on the identity of the team coming from two very different coaches?