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Originally Posted by Itse
Again, primary stats are the bed predictor of outcomes, by far. I know people don't like this answer because it's such a banal answer. It's still the truth.
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and help determine personnel usage, strategy, matchups and even things like trades or call ups.
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As far as I know there is little to no evidence that they actually do any of these things. I'm sure some new stats do something, but for the most part the jury is probably very much still out.
True, that's not what makes them useless. What makes them useless is the existence of other, better stats that are so much more predictive that it's questionable whether their predictive power can be enhanced with secondary stats.
Although since secondary stats have existed for years now, I think we can safely assume that people have tried this and mostly failed. Because if they had succeeded we'd likely know about it, as development is reported while non-development is not.
It would surely be if anyone had said something like that.
Wasn't what I said though.
Yes, it's pretty noticeable that you don't actually read the statistics, you just comment on them as if their usefulness was a rhetorical matter. |
Well an NHL team should hire you because clearly you have access to stats that the rest of us don’t. Either that or you still aren’t willing to recognize that things like wins and goal diff aren’t predictive, they are the results. They provide no useful data from game to game. This is about so much more than saying you think the correlation between goal diff and points is a positive one.
NHL teams know better than you. The fact that since you don’t know you dismiss the entire concept of advanced stats makes this an effort in futility.
Me not following posts on CP that discuss advanced stats is irrelevant to their usefulness to NHL teams because you don’t know what they are. Your argument seems to be that you don’t know what stats NHL teams use, therefore they must not exist or they don’t work or NHL teams are using them wrong and the stats you like, which are useless for the purposes NHL teams want advanced stats, are somehow superior.