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Old 04-07-2018, 11:22 AM   #516
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This argument is overrated. People used to say the same about Darryl Sutter before he came back with Kings to n two Cups. Hartley himself had been in Europe before hired by Flames, winning a round and Jack Adams


Hartley is also 57. He may not have enough intensity for his coaching style to be effective (see Keenan's tenure with the Flames when he was semi-retired and useless). It doesn't mean Hartley did a bad job with the Flames.
Hartley was brought in from Europe as a desperate measure by the former GM who was the godfather of his child, as a last ditch effort to save his own hide, with a vet team.

His hardass style was fairly one dimensional, his NHL success was with HoF stacked teams in a non cap league, and were over a decade prior to coming here.

Water under the bridge but if he didn’t make that playoff series, who knows where this team would be now. He was only brought back the next year under new GM BT because he won that series, as BT fully expected to replace him otherwise.

BT likely does not hire GG, so who knows how things go.

Hartley did get the most of thet team but using the whip gratuitously, but, it was far too much of a crutch than an effective tool, which is why it really lasted just a year for a for a rebuilding team.

Treliving just swung too far the other way with a coach that is too cerebral and over thinks and doesn’t have enough believable fire to get his players charged up when required.
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