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Old 04-06-2018, 03:53 PM   #306
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I don't believe I should get a vote on every decision that Council makes before they make it, even if I might have an opinion on it.
I just think we should vote on things that are going to cost more than 4.6 billion dollars and tend to run over budget by 156%...or things that are more than an entire year of funding the city....or anything with "good party" in the notes column.

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Who says it's hard to figure out? It was costly in 2010, I'm sure, too. But in that case, if I remember right, hadn't Vancouver already submitted a bid before they held the vote there? Weren't they already further along in the process?
It cost 600k. They submitted their bid in Jan. The plebiscite was in Feb and the IOC visited in March. However the plebiscite was planned for a long time. They did over 400 open houses and 1000 public presentations to educate the people who would be voting...kind of the opposite of what we have going on here. But I believe our timeline is similar...bids due Jan 2019, IOC visit in March. So they could still figure it out but it needs to get rolling now.

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The plebiscite was the mayor's idea. Campbell went ahead with it despite warnings it was too late in the bid. It also cost taxpayers almost $600,000.
"I'd have spent a million if I had to," he said. "We're talking about democracy here. I'm sick and tired of people saying there's a price to be paid for democracy."
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Who's "we"? Do you have this information? I don't. I'm waiting for someone to put out a pdf setting it all out for me to read so I can decide if I think this thing is going to make fiscal sense.
It's all on the calgary.ca site.

http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Recreatio...20redacted.pdf

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It's going to skew "no", even if Calgary as a whole is largely in favour but most people aren't paying enough attention to show up and cast their vote on the matter
The city could develop interest in a plebiscite and endeavor to educate just like Vancouver did. Even so, I wonder if a "no" vote might actually have some good reasoning behind it. Vancouver miraculously broke even on the games...if you take out about 5 billion in infrastructure, all of which was severely under estimated. Pyeongchang is about 10 billion short so far. Sochi. But yeah, our 13 councilors probably know all that.
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