[Makarov]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Apparently not just in politics blogs...

It's really not that delicate a balance, though, is it? If you come to the table with empirical data about the reality that, in your example, black males have bad outcomes in society and talk earnestly and non-dogmatically about the sources of those issues, it's not like anyone reasonable is going to call you a SJW for noticing that white racism and the legacy of historical power structures are among those sources. That line comes when you present dishonestly parsed data in support of the notion that white racism is the only source of the problem worth talking about, or characterize anyone who wants to talk about the nuances as a racist for distracting from the problem of white supremacy as if there were no cultural issues at play whatsoever that aren't the direct result of systemic oppression.

In other words, Cliff is actually asking for someone to ask, and answer, your question... but to do it candidly and honestly without self-righteous moral grandstanding. That appears to be a bridge too far for the identity politics crowd at this point, a challenge they're unable to answer for the reasons I was talking about earlier.

Frankly if everyone could just approach issues of inequality the way the effective altruism movement approaches charitable giving, we'd all be better off.

Well, we all agree then.

I still think Peterson is one of the worst offenders when it comes to “self-righteous grandstanding”, but that’s just my two cents.